Once again I find myself copy and paste for this newest post.
The article was written by Andrew Strom of Revival School.
I have been reading over a certain amount of time. I have followed other ministries if he has mentioned a ministry that he puts his stamp of approval on such ministry.
So here is the article in its'entirety.
Enoy reading.
PART #2 - WHY I LEFT THE PROPHETIC MOVEMENT
I guess you will not be surprised to hear that I was flooded with 600 emails within 24 hours of my announcement that I was leaving the Prophetic movement. Many of them seemed to be highly supportive of the stand I had taken. (-A lot of people have seen alarming things in this movement). But I'm sure I will receive a lot of flak also.
For many years, even when I was truly disturbed by something I usually avoided "naming names" as much as possible. I do not approve of the 'Heresy Hunters' who seem to take such delight in maligning Spirit-filled ministries across the Internet. There is no delight in such things for me. Only grief and sadness that the name of Jesus is once again being brought down into the mud. We live in very sad times in the church today, don't we?
After my previous article, many people asked me again to "name names" and announce clearly who the leaders were at this conference - even though that info was already at the top of my first email. For this one time, I am actually going to accede to their request - because we need to clear the air about these leaders and also a number of others as well. But I have to tell you, I have been totally heart-sick at having to talk about all this.
The speakers at this KC 'Whitedove' Conference were Bob Jones, Paul Keith Davis, Bobby Conner, John Paul Jackson, Shawn Bolz - plus Jim Goll and one or two others. Sadly, I have to say that I have rarely felt so grieved or devastated as when I witnessed the carryings-on at this event. If you get the 'Elijah' List (-the main Prophetic email List) you will recognize most of the names above as being amongst the top "movers and shakers" of the whole movement.
A number of people asked me about Rick Joyner and Morningstar Ministries. Where do they fit into all this? Well, seemingly Rick has always managed to keep himself at a slight distance from the worst excesses and controversies of this movement. (-Except for when he joined the Knights of Malta - an ancient Catholic Order. -By the way, that is probably what led to the fad of using swords to 'knight' people that swept through this movement a few years ago). I have read some of Joyner's books and enjoy some of the things he says, but frankly, just because he has kept himself at a slight distance does not absolve him from the mess that the Prophetic is in today. The fact is, Mr Joyner is very close friends with almost all of the main leaders at this recent conference. He regularly ministers alongside them - and knows them very well. As a 'father' in the movement, if he had brought correction it would have been heeded, but he has clearly failed to do so. Thus, he has to be held accountable for the state of things as much as anyone else. And it would not surprise me if similar deception is finding it's way into Morningstar conferences. (-A number of the same people are involved). Sadly then, I have had to remove any articles or links to Rick Joyner from my web-site - along with all the others.
And speaking of the sad and grievous state of this movement, I wonder how many of you received the following notice from the Elijah List recently about a forthcoming 'School of the Prophets': "God is releasing a new level of revelation that goes beyond just operating in the nine gifts of the Spirit.... Sessions will cover topics like Hearing the Voice of God, Activating your Spiritual Senses, Third Heaven Experiences, and Exploring Spirit Realms." The advertised speakers are Todd Bentley, Stacey Campbell, Larry Randolph, Paul Keith Davis, and Bobby Conner.
Now, I have come across Todd Bentley's teachings on "How to visit the Third Heaven" before, and I tell you, it is nothing less than 'Guided Visualization' taken straight out of the New Age movement. Nothing less and nothing more. It is exactly the same. And I want you to know that if you attend these kinds of things, or allow these men to 'guide' you or lay hands upon you, then you are opening yourself up to all kinds of spirits and demonic counterfeits. As I have stated before, this movement has absolutely NO DISCERNMENT at all. It has sunk into such deception that it's leaders are opening people up to all kinds of demonic experiences on a daily basis. It has no idea that it is even doing it. -It behaves exactly like a movement that has been "given over to deception" by God. I urge again that everyone reading this would prayerfully consider CUTTING OFF all ties to this movement, lest you yourself become tainted by it.
It is with great sadness that I make the above points. I have refrained from saying such things in the past, but I can no longer do so, because untold people are being spiritually damaged by what is going on. Please understand my heart in this.
For the same reason I also need to warn you about another 'prophetess' who is often featured on the Elijah List. Her name is Jill Austin and I have personally witnessed her ministry in action. I would describe it as one of the most disturbing (by far) meetings that I have ever been in. There was definitely a strange "power" operating, but it certainly did not seem like God to me. She is also an expert at 'hyping' an audience. Please be very careful in such environments, my friends. -You can end up taking part in things that you would never normally do, just because you are part of a large crowd.
Sadly, there seem to be many other ministries in this movement involved in similar deception. In fact, I hate to say it, but a general rule might be that if someone is featured on the Elijah List, there has to be at least an 80% chance that their ministry is "off" in some major way. I will say just one more thing about the Elijah List: I am convinced that they will one day give account to God for taking upon themselves the name "Elijah" and then doing what they have done with it. Literally, by their own words they will be judged.
HOW TO AVOID DECEPTION
What a lot of people don't seem to recognize is the sheer level of 'peer pressure' and "crowd manipulation" that is going on at many of these events. They end up being led into doing things they feel uncomfortable with, just because "everybody else" is doing it. They squash down their discernment. They ignore the "little voice" or the tiny 'alarm bells' inside them that are trying to get their attention. And thus, multitudes of Christians are being led astray - and paying through the nose for the privilege. I urge anyone reading this who has ever squashed down their discernment and participated in such things, to get before God and REPENT of opening yourself up in that way. It is very important that you confess this before God and ask His forgiveness. RENOUNCE all deception in Jesus' name.
One thing we don't have much time to discuss here is the MONEY issue. This is a huge problem in the Prophetic. Now, I do understand that ministries need finances to operate. I run a ministry myself. And as most of you know, about 5 times a year we put out a book or CD (available for any donation - or even just postage) to go towards the costs of keeping this ministry operating. However, the word itself is always free. It is terribly sad to see the charging of 'entry fees' to hear the word today, and the over-bearing emphasis on MONEY in the church. Did not Jesus clearly command: "Freely you have received, freely give"?
REDEFINING "PROPHET"
Just because I have cut myself off from today's Prophetic movement does not mean that I believe there is no place for prophets in the church. In fact, I believe we need true prophets now more than ever. But you will notice that there has been a subtle shift in the use of the term "prophet" over the last 25 years, and I believe we need to get back to the original meaning. It was not long ago that when you spoke of a 'prophet' you were usually referring to someone like Keith Green, Leonard Ravenhill or David Wilkerson - someone who was crying out to the lukewarm church, "REPENT." And if you look down the annals of history, you will find that there has never been a true Prophetic movement that did not have this as it's core message. Every true Prophetic movement, right from the Old Testament down through every Revival and Awakening that I have ever studied, has been a movement of REPENTANCE. And yet we find today a movement that calls itself "Prophetic" - but with spiritual 'revelations' and words of knowledge at its core. -No piercing word. This is the precise reason why it has gone off the rails. -It has abandoned it's age-old message. It's 'word' has been corrupted.
I am convinced that God IS going to raise up true prophets in this hour to cry to the lukewarm church "Repent". There is a movement coming that is utterly different from that which we have seen. God is coming to clean house. The "shaking" has already begun. And the "John-the-Baptists" whom God has prepared in the caves and wildernesses are about to arise and speak His word - just as in every Great Awakening down through history.
Some people asked me if I was going to shut down our web-sites and email Lists. Not at all. The whole point of what we're doing is to call forth and encourage these "John-the-Baptists" whom God is raising up in this hour. We will not stop crying aloud until we see a great 'Repentance' Revival sweeping this nation from coast to coast.
As A.W. Tozer wrote of all true prophets down the ages: "God has always had His specialists whose chief concern has been the moral breakdown, the decline in the spiritual health of the nation or the church. Such men were Elijah, Jeremiah, Malachi and others of their kind who appeared at critical moments in history to reprove, rebuke and exhort in the name of God and righteousness... Such a man was likely to be drastic, radical, possibly at times violent, and the curious crowd that gathered to watch him work soon branded him as extreme, fanatical, negative. And in a sense they were right. He was single-minded, severe, fearless, and these were the qualities the circumstances demanded. He shocked some, frightened others and alienated not a few, but he knew who had called him and what he was sent to do. His ministry was geared to the emergency, and that fact marked him out as different, a man apart."
Saturday, February 20, 2010
Thursday, February 11, 2010
True ministry of a Prophet
If someone were to ask you 'what is the true purpose of a Prophet?'
a. To hold services and give a personal word of prophecy over people.
b. To encourage to act on their greed side of their personality.
c. To call a solemn assembly and call forth repentence.
Which answer did you give? If you chose c, you are correct. All through scriptures the Prophet's office was that of calling nations and peoples to repent, turn away from false idols.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(2 Timothy 3:16 KJV)
Some would act like that somethings in Scriptures were not written for them.
God is not mocked. He gave his secretaries to write down things that He wanted His' people to know. The body of Christ can no longer pick and choose what they will or will not obey.
We are truly living in the Book of Revelation. God saw this current situation of the church when He spoke to John. "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
(Revelation 3:14 KJV)
God looked forward through the annals of time and gave it to John to write it to the Laodiceans.
Here is what God spoke: And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
(Revelation 3:14-20 KJV).
The church is living like the Church of Laodicean. God in his' mercy is still calling for repentance. He never gives up on His' creation.
The church needs to look at itself and repent of it's greed.
There needs to be a complete turn about and a return to a message of repentence and salvation.
The church cannot afford to keep teaching the prosperity and realize that it stands naked and should be ashamed of their nakedness.
Keep up the studying and be a great soldier of the Word and the Sword of the Spirit.
a. To hold services and give a personal word of prophecy over people.
b. To encourage to act on their greed side of their personality.
c. To call a solemn assembly and call forth repentence.
Which answer did you give? If you chose c, you are correct. All through scriptures the Prophet's office was that of calling nations and peoples to repent, turn away from false idols.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(2 Timothy 3:16 KJV)
Some would act like that somethings in Scriptures were not written for them.
God is not mocked. He gave his secretaries to write down things that He wanted His' people to know. The body of Christ can no longer pick and choose what they will or will not obey.
We are truly living in the Book of Revelation. God saw this current situation of the church when He spoke to John. "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
(Revelation 3:14 KJV)
God looked forward through the annals of time and gave it to John to write it to the Laodiceans.
Here is what God spoke: And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
(Revelation 3:14-20 KJV).
The church is living like the Church of Laodicean. God in his' mercy is still calling for repentance. He never gives up on His' creation.
The church needs to look at itself and repent of it's greed.
There needs to be a complete turn about and a return to a message of repentence and salvation.
The church cannot afford to keep teaching the prosperity and realize that it stands naked and should be ashamed of their nakedness.
Keep up the studying and be a great soldier of the Word and the Sword of the Spirit.
Tuesday, February 09, 2010
The Preacher, Prophet?
I have been following a certain story about a preacher/prophet.
While following this story I have also been reading a book by Andrew Strom of why he left the 'prophetic movement'.
What really makes a prophet? Is it his orator skills? How about the signs that happen in the service?
The answer to all of these questions is no.
A prophet throughout the scriptures was found to have just one message, the message of repentance.
2 John 1:10-11 KJV If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: (11) For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
There are alot of self-made prophets, prophets of profit. The apostle John warns about these type of preachers, teachers. He warns us not to give our blessing to these type of preachers.
If we do John tells us the we become partakers of their evil deeds. John's warning was not new, Christ warned us also, when he spoke of people who approached the throne and told the Lord what they have done and the answer came back, 'depart from me, I never knew you' (Matthew 7:23).
When you give to these type with finaces you are putting your blessing on them by your action of financial giving.
The next time you are asked to support a ministry with your finances, stop and ask yourself, is this really a ministry that God has put his blessing on. Large crowds, signs, wonders,and so-called miracles are not signs of God's blessing on a ministry.
Give yourself some time and read Andrew Strom's book, Why I left the prophetice movement. After you have finished, you will be glad that you have read the book.
So, not all preachers, self named prophets, have God's seal on them. We need to learn discernment when it comes to these people.
Discernment comes from study, the study of God's Word.
If you have questions, but feel it may be stupid, remember, there is no such thing as a stupid question.
God bless, and happy studying.
While following this story I have also been reading a book by Andrew Strom of why he left the 'prophetic movement'.
What really makes a prophet? Is it his orator skills? How about the signs that happen in the service?
The answer to all of these questions is no.
A prophet throughout the scriptures was found to have just one message, the message of repentance.
2 John 1:10-11 KJV If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: (11) For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
There are alot of self-made prophets, prophets of profit. The apostle John warns about these type of preachers, teachers. He warns us not to give our blessing to these type of preachers.
If we do John tells us the we become partakers of their evil deeds. John's warning was not new, Christ warned us also, when he spoke of people who approached the throne and told the Lord what they have done and the answer came back, 'depart from me, I never knew you' (Matthew 7:23).
When you give to these type with finaces you are putting your blessing on them by your action of financial giving.
The next time you are asked to support a ministry with your finances, stop and ask yourself, is this really a ministry that God has put his blessing on. Large crowds, signs, wonders,and so-called miracles are not signs of God's blessing on a ministry.
Give yourself some time and read Andrew Strom's book, Why I left the prophetice movement. After you have finished, you will be glad that you have read the book.
So, not all preachers, self named prophets, have God's seal on them. We need to learn discernment when it comes to these people.
Discernment comes from study, the study of God's Word.
If you have questions, but feel it may be stupid, remember, there is no such thing as a stupid question.
God bless, and happy studying.
Friday, January 29, 2010
Judgment is Coming
Over the past several months, maybe years, I have watched and also listened to many ministries. While listening I often would find myself asking a question,"how can anyone belief what the ministry is saying and doing?"
Where is the discernment of the church.
The western hemisphere church watched in the 80's the religious house of cards topple and fall to the ground. It is of my opinion that the church did not learn the lesson that God wanted us to learn. That being that God will not wink at sin.
I have been looking inward because of an un-easy feeling of wondering when is the other shoe going to drop.
Just the other day while checking my emails, I received one from Andrew Strom and his ministry Revival School.
As I began to read it answered that un-easy feeling I was having.
Instead of writing a book esay, I am going to post what I would call a true Word from the Holy Spirit.
Please read:
JUDGMENT IS COMING to THE PULPITS of AMERICA
Cindy deVille. (June 8, 2008).
Preface: This is a very intense word and I will not make any excuses for the Spirit of God or attempt to manage Him. I will tell you though that this word came from the depths of God's heart. I felt the same zeal and love that I believe drove Jesus to cleanse the temple. His presence was very heavy upon me as I wrote this...
Judgment Is Coming to the Pulpits of America
"The zeal for My house has consumed Me says the Spirit of God! The love for My people has overtaken Me!
Therefore I will begin, I will begin, I will begin says the Spirit of God.
I will begin now to cleanse My house, I will call out and I will bring judgment, I will enter in and begin in the pulpits of America! The fear of Me shall hit the five-fold ministry, it will cause many to shudder as I utter My judgments.
The five-fold ministry shall see My judgments. Those who presume to speak for Me with hidden sin, they will see judgment come to them, swiftly and suddenly! Those who think they can live in sin, be My mouthpiece and stand in My Holy place with the mask of deception on their face, they shall see My swift judgments! It shall be like an earthquake, and everything shall shake! Everything shall shake. For I will have My way!
This is a day when I will not tolerate their sin anymore! NO MORE, NO MORE says the Spirit of the Lord!
For I am coming to My temple and with a great roar! I will bring fear back to My house again and I will confront and remove the sin that many in the pulpit are living in! And some shall be examples as Ananais and Saphira.
All that can be shaken will be shaken. For I will have a Holy people, a Holy nation.
I will have a Glorious Church and I will remove everything and everyone standing in My way. For this is a new day!
You say mercy, mercy, grace, grace and you think that will erase the hidden sin you continue to live and revel in!
I will have it no more! Your words are nothing to Me, it is your actions that I see! You have trampled on My grace and made a mockery of My mercy and you have taught My people the same and now My name is shamed! Now My people think that I am OK with sin, You have opened the door and let it into My sanctuary, into My Holy place, You have made My house one of disgrace.
You have defiled My house and defiled My people! The sin is destroying My people, destroying My Church and destroying your nation!
I am done with you, and I will have it no more!
No more mercy and no more grace, for you come near to Me with your words but your heart is far, far from Me.
Do you not know that I see everything?
You cannot fool or deceive Me as you do My people,
For I AM the God of all truth and I will deal with you!
For I AM a Holy God and My sanctuary shall be holy, and
I WILL HAVE A HOLY PEOPLE that they might bear My Glory!
They shall be holy unto Me, therefore I must remove the unclean things!
I will raise up and I will bring down!
I will remove apostle, prophet, pastor, teacher, evangelist from the pulpit, those in the five-fold ministry who are defiling My house and defiling My people. I will have it NO MORE, NO MORE, says the Spirit of the Lord.
My judgment is coming to the pulpits of America. I will judge, I will cleanse, I will purify!
I have seen in secret and I will reward you openly! I will expose your sin.
You have fooled My people but you have not fooled Me says the Spirit of God, for I see all things! I see what you have done behind closed doors and I say to you, I WILL HAVE IT NO MORE! For judgment has opened the door and is coming in.
These are not mere words that I speak to you, but watch Me, says the Spirit of God, I will perform My word, and you will know the fear of Me again. For I am the Lord of Glory and this is not as before, this is not as before, this is not as before!!! I am coming to deal with the sin in the pulpits of America, I am coming in to deal with you! I will have it no more, no more says the Spirit of the Lord!
For I am warning you says the Spirit of God, do not step up to the pulpit with hidden sin in your life, for you may not live to see another day for I will have My Church, My way, says the Spirit of Grace.
This is not a game, this is not a game! All the earth shall know My name!
I am not playing games!"
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Where is the discernment of the church.
The western hemisphere church watched in the 80's the religious house of cards topple and fall to the ground. It is of my opinion that the church did not learn the lesson that God wanted us to learn. That being that God will not wink at sin.
I have been looking inward because of an un-easy feeling of wondering when is the other shoe going to drop.
Just the other day while checking my emails, I received one from Andrew Strom and his ministry Revival School.
As I began to read it answered that un-easy feeling I was having.
Instead of writing a book esay, I am going to post what I would call a true Word from the Holy Spirit.
Please read:
JUDGMENT IS COMING to THE PULPITS of AMERICA
Cindy deVille. (June 8, 2008).
Preface: This is a very intense word and I will not make any excuses for the Spirit of God or attempt to manage Him. I will tell you though that this word came from the depths of God's heart. I felt the same zeal and love that I believe drove Jesus to cleanse the temple. His presence was very heavy upon me as I wrote this...
Judgment Is Coming to the Pulpits of America
"The zeal for My house has consumed Me says the Spirit of God! The love for My people has overtaken Me!
Therefore I will begin, I will begin, I will begin says the Spirit of God.
I will begin now to cleanse My house, I will call out and I will bring judgment, I will enter in and begin in the pulpits of America! The fear of Me shall hit the five-fold ministry, it will cause many to shudder as I utter My judgments.
The five-fold ministry shall see My judgments. Those who presume to speak for Me with hidden sin, they will see judgment come to them, swiftly and suddenly! Those who think they can live in sin, be My mouthpiece and stand in My Holy place with the mask of deception on their face, they shall see My swift judgments! It shall be like an earthquake, and everything shall shake! Everything shall shake. For I will have My way!
This is a day when I will not tolerate their sin anymore! NO MORE, NO MORE says the Spirit of the Lord!
For I am coming to My temple and with a great roar! I will bring fear back to My house again and I will confront and remove the sin that many in the pulpit are living in! And some shall be examples as Ananais and Saphira.
All that can be shaken will be shaken. For I will have a Holy people, a Holy nation.
I will have a Glorious Church and I will remove everything and everyone standing in My way. For this is a new day!
You say mercy, mercy, grace, grace and you think that will erase the hidden sin you continue to live and revel in!
I will have it no more! Your words are nothing to Me, it is your actions that I see! You have trampled on My grace and made a mockery of My mercy and you have taught My people the same and now My name is shamed! Now My people think that I am OK with sin, You have opened the door and let it into My sanctuary, into My Holy place, You have made My house one of disgrace.
You have defiled My house and defiled My people! The sin is destroying My people, destroying My Church and destroying your nation!
I am done with you, and I will have it no more!
No more mercy and no more grace, for you come near to Me with your words but your heart is far, far from Me.
Do you not know that I see everything?
You cannot fool or deceive Me as you do My people,
For I AM the God of all truth and I will deal with you!
For I AM a Holy God and My sanctuary shall be holy, and
I WILL HAVE A HOLY PEOPLE that they might bear My Glory!
They shall be holy unto Me, therefore I must remove the unclean things!
I will raise up and I will bring down!
I will remove apostle, prophet, pastor, teacher, evangelist from the pulpit, those in the five-fold ministry who are defiling My house and defiling My people. I will have it NO MORE, NO MORE, says the Spirit of the Lord.
My judgment is coming to the pulpits of America. I will judge, I will cleanse, I will purify!
I have seen in secret and I will reward you openly! I will expose your sin.
You have fooled My people but you have not fooled Me says the Spirit of God, for I see all things! I see what you have done behind closed doors and I say to you, I WILL HAVE IT NO MORE! For judgment has opened the door and is coming in.
These are not mere words that I speak to you, but watch Me, says the Spirit of God, I will perform My word, and you will know the fear of Me again. For I am the Lord of Glory and this is not as before, this is not as before, this is not as before!!! I am coming to deal with the sin in the pulpits of America, I am coming in to deal with you! I will have it no more, no more says the Spirit of the Lord!
For I am warning you says the Spirit of God, do not step up to the pulpit with hidden sin in your life, for you may not live to see another day for I will have My Church, My way, says the Spirit of Grace.
This is not a game, this is not a game! All the earth shall know My name!
I am not playing games!"
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Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Prophets, Miracles, Lying Signs & Wonders
A resurgence of miracles, signs and wonders started back with Aimee Semple McPherson.
Along came the tent revivals of the 1940's with evangelists like, A. A. Allen, R.W. Schambach.
Then came the master of Miracle Services of Kathryn Kuhlman. She appealed not only to the working class, but also to the well-known,rich and poor. Here crusades were televised and it was ratings heaven.
Oral Roberts started as a tent-evangelist and saw the power of television and took to the airwaves with choreographed singers and dancers and he preached through the television as if he was having a one on one conversation with those who were watching.
The great master of this style of service was with Rex Hummbard.
The age of Miracles signs and wonders never had it so good.
Jesus saw this day coming when He spoke in Matthew 7:21-23 giving a warning about those who prophesy, cast out devils, and have done many works in His' name. His' reply was this "...I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work inquity."
I believe he gave this warning because he knew a day would come when a man would appear on the scene working great signs and miracles, even calling down fire. But before this man can step onto the world stage something has to be stripped from people, that being discernment.
John gives the church a warning to the believers when he writes "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether the are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (1John 4:1)
If someone were to put this into practice, someone would shout out "touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm." They would say to those who believe what John wrote and say they have a judgemental spirit.
Well guess who will be the ones who will fall under this great new preacher with all the signs he does, the preacher being the anti-christ, false preacher, the new world religion.
If something does not happen to where God shakes the church, especially in the western hemisphere, there is coming a day of sorrow when people will be asking themselves,"how could this have happened to me?"
The church needs a movement that will allow God to hit the re-set button.
In later posts I want to write about things to watch about certain preachers and their tricks they use to make it look like God is working with them.
Stay tune!
Along came the tent revivals of the 1940's with evangelists like, A. A. Allen, R.W. Schambach.
Then came the master of Miracle Services of Kathryn Kuhlman. She appealed not only to the working class, but also to the well-known,rich and poor. Here crusades were televised and it was ratings heaven.
Oral Roberts started as a tent-evangelist and saw the power of television and took to the airwaves with choreographed singers and dancers and he preached through the television as if he was having a one on one conversation with those who were watching.
The great master of this style of service was with Rex Hummbard.
The age of Miracles signs and wonders never had it so good.
Jesus saw this day coming when He spoke in Matthew 7:21-23 giving a warning about those who prophesy, cast out devils, and have done many works in His' name. His' reply was this "...I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work inquity."
I believe he gave this warning because he knew a day would come when a man would appear on the scene working great signs and miracles, even calling down fire. But before this man can step onto the world stage something has to be stripped from people, that being discernment.
John gives the church a warning to the believers when he writes "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether the are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (1John 4:1)
If someone were to put this into practice, someone would shout out "touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm." They would say to those who believe what John wrote and say they have a judgemental spirit.
Well guess who will be the ones who will fall under this great new preacher with all the signs he does, the preacher being the anti-christ, false preacher, the new world religion.
If something does not happen to where God shakes the church, especially in the western hemisphere, there is coming a day of sorrow when people will be asking themselves,"how could this have happened to me?"
The church needs a movement that will allow God to hit the re-set button.
In later posts I want to write about things to watch about certain preachers and their tricks they use to make it look like God is working with them.
Stay tune!
Saturday, January 23, 2010
The Empty Vessel of a preacher
Several days ago I heard a story concerning a preacher and those around him. Those around the man told the story that they had never seen the preacher reading God's word.
How would you feel if you are a parent and it was found out that the teacher never studied the subject the teacher was to teach the students under the teacher's care.
When a person neglects to study the neglect shows up eventually when nothing comes out.
Jesus told us in His' teachings that what defiles a person is what comes out of the person, not what goes in.
"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." (Matthew 15:11 KJV)
Doctors tell us that a person can go about four days without water.
When it comes to the spiritual man, it cannot go without a routine of the 'Word'.
Paul writes to the church in Ephesus that our inner man needs the 'water of the word' to keep us cleansed.
"That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word," (Ephesians 5:26 KJV)
The adage that says, 'what goes in, is that which comes out'
Paul and Peter were in trouble in the city they were in and when night came people helped them sneak out of town and into a place called Berea. As they spoke to the Bereans, the Bereans did not just accept what the apostles told them, but they went and studied daily to see if Paul and Peter were correct with how they taught the Word of God.
"And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews." (Acts 17:10 KJV)
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (Acts 17:11 KJV)
Do you have a daily routine of searching the scriptures to see if what your spiritual leader was speaking correctly and was a workman that didn't need to be ashamed.
So, to the leaders, whether you are a pastor, Sunday School teacher,or any ministry that you are in a place of teaching, are you taking in enough 'water of the word', or are you dehydrated for a lack of searching the scriptures.
If you are a person who is under a ministry and the ministry is empty, I would suggest to you to seek out a ministry who can give out richly because he has a steady in-flow of the scriptures.
How would you feel if you are a parent and it was found out that the teacher never studied the subject the teacher was to teach the students under the teacher's care.
When a person neglects to study the neglect shows up eventually when nothing comes out.
Jesus told us in His' teachings that what defiles a person is what comes out of the person, not what goes in.
"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." (Matthew 15:11 KJV)
Doctors tell us that a person can go about four days without water.
When it comes to the spiritual man, it cannot go without a routine of the 'Word'.
Paul writes to the church in Ephesus that our inner man needs the 'water of the word' to keep us cleansed.
"That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word," (Ephesians 5:26 KJV)
The adage that says, 'what goes in, is that which comes out'
Paul and Peter were in trouble in the city they were in and when night came people helped them sneak out of town and into a place called Berea. As they spoke to the Bereans, the Bereans did not just accept what the apostles told them, but they went and studied daily to see if Paul and Peter were correct with how they taught the Word of God.
"And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews." (Acts 17:10 KJV)
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (Acts 17:11 KJV)
Do you have a daily routine of searching the scriptures to see if what your spiritual leader was speaking correctly and was a workman that didn't need to be ashamed.
So, to the leaders, whether you are a pastor, Sunday School teacher,or any ministry that you are in a place of teaching, are you taking in enough 'water of the word', or are you dehydrated for a lack of searching the scriptures.
If you are a person who is under a ministry and the ministry is empty, I would suggest to you to seek out a ministry who can give out richly because he has a steady in-flow of the scriptures.
Monday, January 18, 2010
Why do believe what you believe?
If you were asked the question 'why do you believe what you believe', what would be your response.
Would one of your answers be 'it's always been that way'.
Our beliefs start as a blank slate at the time of birth. That blank slate begins to have things written on it.
It begins in a child's formative years. They minds could be looked at like a piece of sponge.
Now as adults we begin the process of organization of beliefs. Getting rid of those which have been proven as fables. Researching another belief because of the orginal is true and it is worthy to be built upon.
Then there are those that we have come into contact which we have not yet considered.
It is said that are minds have just secs to accept or reject a thought before it becomes permanent in our mind.
Our daily focus needs to be that our mind be stayed on the mind of Christ.
Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. (Isaiah 26:3 KJV)
You ask what is the mind of Christ? It is what most of us have in our possession, it is the written word of God.
The mind of Christ is not somthing that goes against holy scriptures. Neither is it some person giving a "personal prophecy" during a revival, healing,and miracle service.
Again as I finish, it comes down again to study.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV)
Would one of your answers be 'it's always been that way'.
Our beliefs start as a blank slate at the time of birth. That blank slate begins to have things written on it.
It begins in a child's formative years. They minds could be looked at like a piece of sponge.
Now as adults we begin the process of organization of beliefs. Getting rid of those which have been proven as fables. Researching another belief because of the orginal is true and it is worthy to be built upon.
Then there are those that we have come into contact which we have not yet considered.
It is said that are minds have just secs to accept or reject a thought before it becomes permanent in our mind.
Our daily focus needs to be that our mind be stayed on the mind of Christ.
Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. (Isaiah 26:3 KJV)
You ask what is the mind of Christ? It is what most of us have in our possession, it is the written word of God.
The mind of Christ is not somthing that goes against holy scriptures. Neither is it some person giving a "personal prophecy" during a revival, healing,and miracle service.
Again as I finish, it comes down again to study.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV)
Monday, December 28, 2009
Motivation of Studying
When you study the scriptures, ask yourself what is my motive?
Is it to show how bright you are, maybe to look more religious, or is it to grow and understand the messages weaved throughout scriptures from front to back?
In the second epistle of Timothy it reads: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2Ti 2:15 KJV)
From my experience, everyone learns in different ways. The main purpose in the end is that we understand all sides of an equation.
It is not just using one verse or part thereof to prove a theory. I have learned that we need scripture to intrepret scripture. Also, over the years it is also helpful to understand why it was written and the circumstances that were involved at the time.
David,wrote most of the Psalms during times of trouble, distress, and great sorrow.
The apostle Paul wrote many of his' while in a Roman jail.
One of the greatest mysteries was written by John on an isle called Patmos while he served a life sentence.
Studying, no matter what subject, is a lifetime experience. If we reach a point that we deceive ourselves that we do not need to study any longer, than we become an island unto ourselves.
I use to think and propogate that all we needed is the Bible, but the older I have become the more I have come to realize that there is so much more available to compliment my Biblical studies.
I now study and read materials, even if I do not agree totally with the entirety of the material, I can still find good information, even if only historical, that I can apply to my topic of study.
I had a pastor once tell me that if we want, we can learn something from everyone that comes in and out of our lives. I have found this to be true.
One main thing I have learned about learning is repetition. This is how I learned the lyrics of gospel songs. I would at that time record the song over and over on a cassette and play it through the night while asleep. I found myself over several days knowing the lyrics by memory.
Again, I encourage to study, healthy study, smart studying, and enjoyable study. If it feels like a task it becomes worthless.
If you are looking for a study tool that can help in your studying I would like to recommend a great piece of free software called, E-Sword. You can find it at: http://www.e-sword.net/index.htmlAgain, Happy studying. Please feel to comment, give suggestions, ideas, even tools that you know about that will help someone else in their studies.
Is it to show how bright you are, maybe to look more religious, or is it to grow and understand the messages weaved throughout scriptures from front to back?
In the second epistle of Timothy it reads: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2Ti 2:15 KJV)
From my experience, everyone learns in different ways. The main purpose in the end is that we understand all sides of an equation.
It is not just using one verse or part thereof to prove a theory. I have learned that we need scripture to intrepret scripture. Also, over the years it is also helpful to understand why it was written and the circumstances that were involved at the time.
David,wrote most of the Psalms during times of trouble, distress, and great sorrow.
The apostle Paul wrote many of his' while in a Roman jail.
One of the greatest mysteries was written by John on an isle called Patmos while he served a life sentence.
Studying, no matter what subject, is a lifetime experience. If we reach a point that we deceive ourselves that we do not need to study any longer, than we become an island unto ourselves.
I use to think and propogate that all we needed is the Bible, but the older I have become the more I have come to realize that there is so much more available to compliment my Biblical studies.
I now study and read materials, even if I do not agree totally with the entirety of the material, I can still find good information, even if only historical, that I can apply to my topic of study.
I had a pastor once tell me that if we want, we can learn something from everyone that comes in and out of our lives. I have found this to be true.
One main thing I have learned about learning is repetition. This is how I learned the lyrics of gospel songs. I would at that time record the song over and over on a cassette and play it through the night while asleep. I found myself over several days knowing the lyrics by memory.
Again, I encourage to study, healthy study, smart studying, and enjoyable study. If it feels like a task it becomes worthless.
If you are looking for a study tool that can help in your studying I would like to recommend a great piece of free software called, E-Sword. You can find it at: http://www.e-sword.net/index.htmlAgain, Happy studying. Please feel to comment, give suggestions, ideas, even tools that you know about that will help someone else in their studies.
Saturday, December 26, 2009
Let's Rethink the Scripture
When is the last time you read, heard a sermon from the scriputures and something in your gut made your inner being raise a red flag? What was your reaction from this? Did you just let it go by, or did you go home and went for your Bible, Bible study helps to see if what you read or heard was acurately in the Bible scriptures.
Our culture has now gone to a level that if a person writing or speaking on scriptures must be true. Not so.
As a former evangelist, pastor, I can say that most do not go beyond the reading or hearing of the scriptures.
In Hosea, he writes the following, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." (Hos 4:6 KJV)
My objective for this blog is to tweak people to the point of where they will go and study the scriptures and the Bible.
There are so many ways to access the Bible and its many translations that basically there is no excuse to do so.
If you have a subject please mention it and maybe a can deal with it in this blog.
Happy studying.
Our culture has now gone to a level that if a person writing or speaking on scriptures must be true. Not so.
As a former evangelist, pastor, I can say that most do not go beyond the reading or hearing of the scriptures.
In Hosea, he writes the following, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." (Hos 4:6 KJV)
My objective for this blog is to tweak people to the point of where they will go and study the scriptures and the Bible.
There are so many ways to access the Bible and its many translations that basically there is no excuse to do so.
If you have a subject please mention it and maybe a can deal with it in this blog.
Happy studying.
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